The Cigar Nut

This is one of those things I am starting to ‘test’ with this site – Please leave a comment either way, good or bad and depending upon how the majority votes, I may or may not keep up the ‘random rant’ posts.

I am noticing that a lot of cigar review sites have deviated from the cigar reviews and are starting to do beer reviews, random photos more of modeling rather than cigars or use their site as a political springboard. I guess when I started my own site the wild notion of ‘Hey, I am making a site for cigars, viewers are going to come here for cigars, so let me focus on cigars’ and perhaps I have gotten onto my own horse about that but if the word ‘cigar’ is in your url, focus on the damn cigars.

Now granted perhaps I am blowing hot hair because most of the sites I hinted towards are simply kicking my butt when it comes to monthly views and traffic, but then again I have only been online for under 6 months where most these sites have gotten a year or more under their belt although for some I am nipping at their heels (haha bitches). Again – I am not trying to burn any bridges so do not expect me to drop any names or point out anyone specific but if you are in certain portions of the cigar review world you may be able to pick up a story or two and perhaps for some, this is a nice way for you to easily dislodge your head from your ass.

One of the main reasons I am ranting at this time is that through twitter, I hear a few people who just bullshit with one another, a few who use twitter as a launching pad for advertisements or those individuals who always, always have to find something to bitch about. We all know these two to three guys and have even discussed their actions out in the open yet nothing has changed, oh well. This ‘rant’ is all in due to a conversation I saw stream by and although I did have a proper foothold to speak my opinion, I resisted for a bit. This conversation was in context of ‘Why do you review cigars? What is your process? What is your ultimate goal?’ and I must say, I never really sat down to think about the answers to these questions and as innocent of questions as these were, I don’t think I’ve seen that kind of nerd rage out-lash in my entire life – most of it made me laugh but part of it just pissed me off with how some of these characters need a good love tap upside their head so they could, perhaps, join us here in reality.

Why do you review cigars? – Awesome question and one that I think almost all fellow review sites have in common and that is we highly enjoy cigars, feel we have a decent enough palate to discern flavor profiles and have a bit of free time to devote into the page. Personally, that is exactly where I feel that I fit into the equation. I’m not a manufacturer producing a site and comparing other brands to my own, I’m not trying to make cash out of the site (although some does come in) nor am I trying to get free sticks which also happen to hit the porch rarely. The normal readers will know, if I get a good batch of cigars I’ll post a lot more reviews in a month, but if I get a few bad batches I’m not going to push out content just to have X number of posts a month – I feel that is wrong the company and the viewers but it seems to be common practice so what do I know.

Aside from that starting question, the conversation evolved and changed and it became more of a debate upon the etiquette around what should or should not be said and what topics should be touched when reviewing cigars and this is when I started to get ticked. My agreements to begin with – One person roughly remarked that we do not know if the manufacturer is aware of current ‘defective’ issues within a blend, IE the wrapper being overly brittle or the draw being tight. I 90% agree with this, unless you are there on the farm throughout the entire process (and even sometimes with these contingencies) you will not know what issues or compromises had to be addressed through the process. I’ve even heard from more than one manufacturer that ‘the farms lie, its not right but you have to get used to it’ so in that respect my hat goes off to them. With this being said, I started to think of this in terms of the auto world – Ford/Honda produces vehicles and has a very high quality control (as do premium cigar manufacturers) although there are still some ‘lemons’ that slip through which is a unfortunate but expected aspect of life, trust me, they know their % of duds vs good cars produced and the cigar manufacturers are no different. The catch with cigar production, you can’t send one back to the factory to be repaired, you just have people who stop buying your cigar because of those repeat issues. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’ll only throw a 7 to 8 dollar stick out the window of my car so many times before I walk onto the next brand.

Now that I have my one agreement out of the way, onto the fun part. Within the conversation that seemed to steadily pick up steam and participants, I sat idly by reading the words across my screen nearly in shock at some people’s remarks. I have to say, I did not 100% disagree with anyone but that was only because I do try to give them the benefit of the doubt, but some seemed to turn their nose sky wards towards us in middle-class or lower-class America. One review site commented that they mostly review cigars that are sent to them from the manufacturer or shops and then complained about the amount of cigars they received! ‘Oh I was only able to get 2 of their cigars, I don’t know if I could really give them a good review’ – this is not a direct quote but a paraphrase of what two or three people had all agreed upon – Are you fucking kidding me?!

Yes I have received a few sticks from different locations, some times 1 or 2, sometimes a few more but nothing to write home about. It all depends on the company and the stick but if I ever smoked a pair and still was not impressed or the consistency was off I would save up and buy an extra pair for a second do over (which yes, I have already done) – I don’t have the cash to buy a box to ‘test’ and I don’t feel that most the viewers do either so why would I attempt to fluff myself up into something I’m not? I wish other sites would follow that rule as well.

Money, it is always about money. The up-nose turn came from another review site who, through no fault of their own (I guess) attempted to compare themselves towards the rest of America saying ‘If you run a site then go buy the cigars’ and left it at that. We all know of one site who got bashed for asking for some smokes to review, well everyone, I’m in the same boat – I’d love some free sticks to review and I guarantee if you send me some I’ll put your name up you sent them haha! I can see where the first site is coming from, but another ‘are you serious comes to mind’. Sure, some people are able to smoke 7 to 8 cigars a day or spend about 1000.00 a month on stogies but for a lot of us poor fucks out there spending 20.00 a week on cigars is a budgeted expense we don’t take for granted. Maybe, just maybe, those are the people who are reading your site for advice because on their limited budget they don’t want to spend two weeks filing through crap smokes only to find one they really like, but can’t smoke more for 2 weeks because they are broke. I’ve been there, more than once, and it sucks.

The last point that was thrown out there that got me erked to no other was ‘We have a responsibility, we can not do or say anything that could jeopardize the company or manufacturers well being’ – Fuck that noise, ever hear of the Ford Pinto? Ford made the GT-40, a simply amazing machine that is rivaled by few other vehicles although this company also made a car that was known to blow up from rear end collisions. Hmm – maybe they took the lemon principal stated above and decided ‘hey guys, maybe we need to re-do this one’. I think that is great for the manufacturer but even better for the consumer! If we do not speak up and say that a specific blend/wrapper is defective or that we do not like the flavor profile that is created (since none of our cigars get sent back to the factory) they have no idea on what needs to be addressed. I have never put out a review where I bashed an entire product line and I guarantee you I never will because I don’t think that any company out there makes 100% poor sticks but I can say that I have written to two different production companies and told them of the flaws I found (usually consistency and construction) and they each responded with kind words and hopes to change. THAT is how it should be.

So, now that I am losing steam, feeling a little bit better about the whole subject, its time for me to go smoke a cigar, drink a beer (maybe I’ll review a bud light tonight) and await for the next load to crap to stream across twitter. Till then

~David – The Cigar Nut

Please let me know if you would like to hear more of these rants, I’ll try to piss off as many people as I can at once, haha!

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14 Comments(+Add)

1   cigarsthomas    
January 23rd, 2010 at 11:16 pm

cant we all just get along dangit.

2   Johnny Brooke - The Weekly Cigar    http://theweeklycigar.com
January 23rd, 2010 at 11:23 pm

Nice rant, David. Kind of sucks to be called out about the beer reviews, but to each his own. I like my beer reviews, and will continue to do them.

As for the free cigars thing, I agree that it’s pretty ridiculous to complain if you received 2-3 free cigars. Who can’t judge a cigar after smoking it 2-3 times? If you get 3 duds, most likely it’s a shitty cigar. Go buy another, if it sucks, then it’s almost definitely a crappy cigar.

There’s been a ton of drama online lately and, frankly, it’s getting a little tiring. Sometimes I just feel like shutting down my computer and sitting on my patio in silence, with a cigar of course.

Anyway, nice review, nice site, and I agree with Thomas above. Screw all of our differences and just let our one common bond keep us happy, that being cigars.

3   admin    
January 23rd, 2010 at 11:29 pm

Again – thank you to everyone for checking out the site and keep the comments coming in, good or bad!!

4   Rookthehiker    http://www.twitter.com/rookthehiker
January 23rd, 2010 at 11:32 pm

Well said. Please keep up the excellent reviews.

5   Bob McDuffee - CigarMedia.Tv    http://cigarmedia.tv
January 24th, 2010 at 5:36 am

Since cigars are not ‘smoked’ in a vacuum, adding reviews of liquor or food seems appropriate, if that is what you want. If that bothers you, avoid the site(s). Mostly reviewers smoke cigars just to expound on their opinion, the rest of us smoke to enjoy the cigar moment. All that is fine until you try to tell me that you have some quest to educate the rest of us because your palette is so good. I don’t care if you can pick out the cedar and the almonds or the sweet orange spice, I only care if the cigar is well constructed and tastes “good”, whatever that means. Manufacturers give away cigars for reviews regularly, that should not be a crime not should accepting them. Call the smoke the way you see it, honesty is always the best policy. I sometimes avoid doing reviews on cigars dislike preferring to talk about the best but will not hesitate to name a bad cigar (does Bravo ring a bell). Any cigar maker that does not know what is going on with their cigars is not paying attention. The good makers constantly check the incoming tobacco, the construction, the packaging etc. That is what it means to be a “cigar maker”.

6   CAOFanatic/Jerry Kontur    
January 24th, 2010 at 6:01 am

Nice Rant…reviews are supposed to honest impressions of a smoke…if only positive reviews are pushed out there to please the manufacturers, then that is a dis-service to the rest of us looking to try something new, or branch out our tasts. Good, bad, or Indifferent…a review should be honest. It should be realized that individual tastes vary along with the minor occasional inconsistencies in manufacturing. We read reviews, and make as educated a decision to buy as we can. I’d rather hear a harsh truth than waste my $$ based on a bullshit propoganda review to please one brand or another. I look forward to your next rant! (How was the Bud-Light?)

7   Jacob Krell    
January 24th, 2010 at 12:05 pm

I thought it was a good rant. As for the guys threatening you and sending you hate mail…. David hit a nerve didn’t he guys? Grow up! I for one check out only a few cigar review sites and participate in 2 forums without serious drama. I do not drink very often so the guys posting up things about alcohol get no attention for me if it is just a straight alcohol review. If you are pairing a cigar with a particular drink I just skim through that part. It does not bother me but I do not care since I do not drink when I smoke. I like a good Dr. Pepper with my cigars. If you like your alcohol with a good cigar I am not offended and won’t speak out against it. Maybe someday I’ll try some new things. David, I like your site because it looks good and I like your honesty and judgment on cigars. If I read a review and buy a cigar based off that review there is still a chance I might not enjoy the cigar. We all have different pallets. If a guy is consistently praising every cigar he tries on his site I might question that. As for bad cigars, no need to totally slam them. Give some constructive criticism and try to point out some of the good. Be fair to yourself, your readers, and the cigar manufacturer. If it is a total dog rocket I would focus my time and effort on something more deserving of a review. I would also consider contacting the manufacturer if that is where you got it from and talk it over with them. Good chance they will appreciate you not killing them on a review and maybe get a better representation of their product to you. Just my thoughts.

8   Craig Vanderslice    http://www.cigarcraig.com
January 24th, 2010 at 3:11 pm

Perfectly good rant. I have a cigar site and I review cigars, sort of…I don’t have the patience or the
palate to do in depth reviews, but if I like a cigar or don;t like it I say so and why. Also, I haven’t solicited or received review cigars, but when I do I will give them the same treatment I do for the cigars I talk about from my own humidor. I try to talk about my cigar experiences on my site as I smoke cigars for the pur enjoyment of them. As far as the drama on Twitter (which I haven’t gotten into yet), it reminds me of the flamewars on usenet. Lots of keyboard muscles and blowing off steam about something that, in the grand scheme of things, is really not that important! Lastly, I doubt there is one cigar manufacturer that intentionally manufactures a really bad cigar, someone someplace likes it!

9   Tom    http://www.tomscigars.com
January 24th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

I like the rants. I’m not saying we see exactly eye to eye one every topic, but I see your points and have no problem with them.

I run a cigar review website, with one major point being… Even a regular guy who isn’t rich and with a normal palate can pick up on some basic common flavors. An advanced palate is not needed, and I am living proof.
I’ve gotten many free sticks and have been forced to give bad reviews of some. I don’t feel too bad since I warn everyone of this possibility beforehand. Any money brought in from the site is dumped back via hosting costs and buying cigars to review.

In the end, I respect any review site out there as long as it is honest. This is why I check this site multiple times a week. Keep the reviews coming, and rant away! I like it!

10   Jose Padron    
January 26th, 2010 at 11:23 am

I beleive you should continue these rants, they give your site a complexity many do not have. However, your ranting and raving seems a bit unprofessional for the industry you yearn to be a part of. I suggest you explore the execution of refrainment when it comes to explotives, rage and blame.

Good Day Sir

JP

11   Matthew    http://www.toastedfoot.com
January 27th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

Thanks for the rant David, glad you chimed in and I think you should continue this series of commentary. As for everyone’s reaction to Artz’s article, I think we can all agree that our enjoyment of smoking and reviewing cigars should not be limited by our ability or inability to purchase and smoke a box of cigars per review.

Personally, I only smoke 1-2 cigars per week, with a 17 month old son and another on the way. I enjoy my time with my review partner and with the cigar and I’ll continue to post reviews after only smoking 2-3, sometimes only 1 of each cigar.

As far as integrating other components into your website, I don’t have a problem with this at all, if it is somehow caters to the life of a cigar smoker, which who knows what all that could potentially entail. Not saying I want to see a review of the pizza you had with your cigar, but I think Johnny’s approach to incorporating beer is a fairly natural compliment to reviews of cigars. We plan to begin reviewing coffee on our website in the coming weeks and I see a close enough correlation to justify the new portion of the site.

Again, glad you ranted and glad you’re thinking through these questions. We all need to be held to the fire from time to time to remember why it is that we do what we do and why we it is that we love what we do.

Take care brother.

12   CigarsThomas    
January 29th, 2010 at 12:20 am

Hey “JOSE PADRON” way to go on hiding behind the name. Nice!

13   stinkie    http://www.cigarbeat.net/forum
February 1st, 2010 at 3:10 pm

Loved the rant here David! I review, if it is good I say so, if it sucks I also say that. I throw up other stuff too. If you don’t like it then don’t read it. Everyone needs to find a reviewer that has similar tastes. I’m for sure no pro but I know what I like and that works for me. I do it more for myself when I have time (have not had time as of late) and no one else.

I’m also glad you brought up the whole $$ thing. This last son just about put a stop to my cigar buying.

About getting the free cigars, I love getting them when I get a chance. maybe I would get more if I always gave them all good reviews but I don’t. Oh well, good day :)

14   dj    
February 2nd, 2010 at 11:27 am

I like a good, pithy rant.

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